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Monday, October 02, 2006

16 year old beasts


He likes eggs

Matt Drugde said the following

The Eggman Says Kids Were “Egging the Congressman On”

The Republican coverup for La Cage Aux Foley has put all the tentacles of the Mighty Wurlitzer into overdrive. Did you ever wonder how low they could go to keep themselves in power? Wonder no more! Making excuses for sexual predators who abuse their authority as elected officials and prey on kids online? No problem!

On MSNBC we learn from Mike Viqueria that it's all just the Democrats trying to use this as an election stunt and kids were routinely warned about LOTS of Congressmen, Tony Snow says on behalf of the President it's nothing more than a few off-color emails, Dennis Hastert thinks the important thing to investigate is who leaked the IMs in the first place (probably a danger to national security), and now Matt Drudge says — yes, wait for it — it's the kid's fault for (I kid you not) "Egging the Congressman On" (says the Eggman).

No surprised here really; as Atrios noted this morning, even the NYT is being remarkably compliant, featuring the one article that promoted Foley as a poor, sick fellow and back paging everything about the coverup. Well, it's all about the coverup. Just ask Richard Nixon.

Please please listen to these Matt Drudge radio clips at Crooks & Liars, because this is where the GOP Protection Racket that Hastert has run for years is going with this. Drudge is, after all, their flagship:

Clip #1: And if anything, these kids are less innocent — these 16 and 17 year-old beasts…and I've seen what they're doing on YouTube and I've seen what they're doing all over the internet — oh yeah — you just have to tune into any part of their pop culture. You're not going to tell me these are innocent babies. Have you read the transcripts that ABC posted going into the weekend of these instant messages, back and forth? The kids are egging the Congressman on! The kids are trying to get this out of him. We haven't got the whole story on this.

I'm sorry but this really does take the cake for just about the worst thing I've ever seen the right wing try to apologize for. Isn't that what pedophiles always say? It's the kid's fault for seducing them? Right. And it gets better. Back to you Matt:

Clip #2: You could say "well Drudge, it's abuse of power, a congressman abusing these impressionable, young 17 year-old beasts, talking about their sex lives with a grown man, on the internet." Because you have to remember, those of us who have seen some of the transcripts of these nasty instant messages. This was two ways, ladies and gentlemen. These kids were playing Foley for everything he was worth. Oh yeah. Oh, I haven't…they were talking about how many times they'd masturbated, how many times they'd done it with their girlfriends this weekend…all these things and these "innocent children." And this "poor" congressman sitting there typing, "oh am I going to get any," you know?

I swear I am not making this up. Listen to it. Drudge is so fucking sick it's really, really disturbing, but to know he's doing it on behalf of the official Bush-Hastert-Boehner-Reynolds GOP coverup is the truly demented part.

No limits to how low they will go. Absolutely no limits.

Oh, and here's a dose of reality


If you are asking if the kid led Foley on, please read this.....
by Got a Grip [Subscribe]
Mon Oct 02, 2006 at 11:52:05 AM PDT

I was reading gnostic's diary about Foley trying to set up a rendevous with one of the young men. The dialogue between Foley and the boy seems to indicate that the boy is leading Foley on or flirting, but there's an uncomfortable edge to it. There was quite a bit of commenting on it. As of now, no one knows who this young man is or what was going on in his mind at the time, and I hope that it remains that way, for his sake. But I feel inclined to relate a very personal story that might help some of you understand a little better what may have been in his head. Bear with me, this is uncomfortable for me to talk about.....

When I was sixteen I had a boyfriend who was into mechanics. He took a class at a technical school on small engines as part of his high school work, but at night he was working on a hotrod engine for an old car that he had. Every night he and a friend of his from school would go to the neighboring town to work on this engine, which was sitting in the shop of the man who was their teacher at the tech school. I would almost always tag along so I could spend time with my boyfriend and just hang out. I also liked the teacher's wife and often went to their house across the yard to visit her.

The teacher was a much older man, probably in his mid-fifties. He was fat and bald and generally sweaty, and smelled of stale beer. I was pretty and perky and full of ungoverned teenage pheromones, so I was attractive to the opposite sex. I had no sexual interest in anyone but my boyfriend, and certainly not in this old man. It took me a while to notice that he would hang close to me in the shop, and when I would go across the yard to his house to visit with his wife he would often follow me. Thinking back on it, I realize I was flattered by the attention and vaguely aroused. As I write this I feel both shame and anger, because I was young and innocent, and I didn't realize what I was doing. I didn't encourage him directly, but I didn't scream bloody murder either. I just thought he thought I was hot, and like I said, I was flattered.

One night he caught me just as I was going into the house through the mudroom. He pushed me against the wall and kissed me and groped me. At first I was so shocked I just let him do it, then I was totally grossed out and scared shitless, and I pushed him off of me and told him to go away. He said, "you know you wanted it." Of course, I didn't want it, but I just didn't know what to say, or what to do now. I pretty much ran into their living room and sat on the couch next to his wife, and that's where I stayed for the next three hours, until my boyfriend came looking for me so we could leave. I was upset, but I didn't say anything. His wife asked me several times what was wrong, but I didn't know what to say to her, so I just said I had a headache. When we left that was it for me, I never went back again or told anyone what had happened.

I have wondered many times since then what would have happened if I'd told someone about this. I wasn't the only girl who hung out there, so I doubt I was the first or last to catch his eye. Would I have been ridiculed and abused by an uncaring, unbelieving public, or would some sort of punishment been dealt out to that man? Did he assault other young girls? Would my telling someone have made a difference, or would I have been ignored?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, kids do alot of stupid things without realizing what it is they're doing. The young man in the IM's might be gay, but that's neither here nor there. He may have been flattered, as I was, he may have even been flirting and teasing a little, as I did. That is the nature of young humans whose hormones are running amok. They don't realize the danger of what they're doing, that they can be hurt in ways they don't understand, just as I didn't know. I think speculating about his motives is a fruitless exercise.

I wish I could give the young man in those IM's a motherly hug and tell him it's okay, he didn't do anything wrong. I wish I could do that for all of those young men, who are surely scared to death about what is happening regarding Foley now and all the uproar this is causing. I also wish I knew if the man who assaulted me all those years ago did this to other girls. I'll always feel a special kind of shame for what happened, and for not telling anyone. The young man (or young men?) who came forward about Foley should take comfort in the fact that they did what I couldn't do, they told someone the truth.

Please be kind, this is my first diary and I'm not sure what I'm doing yet...


Too many kids were raped by too many adults for the predator's defense to hold up. People are not going to accept these bullshit arguments.

posted by Steve @ 7:27:00 PM

7:27:00 PM

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