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Wednesday, May 17, 2006

The fantasy immigration debate


The US-Mexico Border,2009

Divide Remains as Bush Pushes Immigration Plan

By CARL HULSE and JIM RUTENBERG
Published: May 17, 2006

WASHINGTON, May 16 — President Bush pushed ahead on Tuesday with his effort to bring Republicans in the House and the Senate together on a plan to reduce illegal immigration. But he ran into renewed resistance from conservatives who said they were not swayed by the case he made Monday to give many illegal workers a chance to become citizens.

The administration began an effort to build support for the president's approach, including putting Vice President Dick Cheney on Rush Limbaugh's syndicated radio program to try to mollify conservatives. Mr. Bush's plan combines a pledge of enhanced border security, backed by the deployment of up to 6,000 National Guard troops, with the creation of a temporary guest worker program and an opportunity for illegal immigrants who meet certain standards to gain legal status.

Mr. Bush spoke by telephone with the House speaker, J. Dennis Hastert of Illinois, and the Senate majority leader, Bill Frist of Tennessee, to press his argument, while other administration officials reached out to other lawmakers.

White House officials said they expected to work for months to build public support and win the votes on Capitol Hill to get a bill through the Senate and then to build a compromise with the House, which has already passed legislation that emphasizes border security and makes it a felony to be in the United States illegally.

Mr. Bush plans to travel to Arizona on Thursday to speak again about the issue, which he has now made a test of his political authority and one of the defining domestic initiatives of his second term. Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's strategist, is scheduled to meet privately on Wednesday morning at the Capitol with assembled House Republicans.

But a day after Mr. Bush delivered a nationally televised address on the issue from the Oval Office, there was little immediate evidence that he had bridged the deep divide in his own party or rallied public opinion sufficiently to break the impasse.

The House majority leader, John A. Boehner of Ohio, gave Mr. Bush credit for making a public effort on immigration and said he believed a final deal was possible. But, he said, "I don't underestimate the difficulty in the House and Senate coming to an agreement on this."

House conservatives said they saw little chance to reconcile the emerging Senate legislation and the House bill.

"The emphasis that he placed on the amnesty provision will not fly, especially in the House," said Representative Tom Tancredo, Republican of Colorado, who is one of the leaders of efforts to stop illegal immigration from Mexico and Central America.


Short of Vox Day's repeat of the Holocaust, there is no way in hell we can chase back 11 million people.

This is some insane, last ditch chance to keep America white, because not one realistic immigration issue is on the table. Jailing priests who help immigrants? They plan to establish an American Stasi as well? There is no other conclusion to come to because all Lou Dobbs and friends talk about are disease carrying Mexican criminals who want to return the Southwest to Mexico.

What the fuck?

Excuse me, what about uh, reuniting legal immigrants with their families? Reforming the laws so children abandoned in the US aren't deported home, legal refugees like those Burmese sitting in Thai camps over an arcane part of US law.

Oh, and what about sex exploitation, importing thousands of women to work as prostitutes?

And those coyotes smuggling people across the border? What about jailing them?

There seems to be no recognition that this has to be a two state solution, just a way to keep them Mexkins out.

Maybe it's me, but didn't Bush win states with large Latino populations in 2004?

CNN's lone voice of reason on immigration is Crazy Nancy Grace. When Dobbs went on her show, she slapped him down. But for the rest of them, the naked racism has been evident.

This debate is just nuts. It's not about work, it's not about the law, but the fact that nearly one out of three Americans isn't white, probably more counting illegals.

I don't know what America Dobbs thinks he lives in, but if he thinks desperate people are going to march back to poverty for a decade long wait, he's nuts.

Pat Buchanan wants to ban immigration for 40 years, quietly forgetting the racism behind the 1920 change in immigration law, which preferred white Northern European Christians over everyone else, or maybe not so quietly.

Tancredo said he thinks people will just go home. People abandon their kids here, they walk across the Sonoran desert,they hide in the well of airplanes. They're not walking home quietly. And this debate has an air of unreality about it which makes the Iraq war debate the hallmark of hardheaded rationalism.

They keep waving the law around like it's a sin for violating it while Bush pretty much wipes his as with the Bill of Rights.

The thing which is amazing is that the GOP was shocked by the reactions of Latinos across the board. Millions of people in the streets and Josh Bolten pretending he can get those votes back. Sure, that will happen, once the Sensenbrenner as an SS officer and signs calling the GOP racist are forgotten.

With blacks, the GOP used code words and played the margins, but now, with Hispanics, it's raw and on the table as if these people don't vote and don't watch TV, much less use computers. Cafferty's sneering discussion of backing up buses to round up illegals was an especially low moment.

But in the end, this is cowardice. Most of the people living here need to become Americans, by whatever means. We need real border security and most of all comphrensive immigration law reform, one which prevents sexual slavery and smuggling. Until you make it worth decades in jail to run a smuggling network, you can build all the sensors you want, they won't stop anything

posted by Steve @ 12:56:00 AM

12:56:00 AM

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