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Tuesday, May 31, 2005

Why would you trust PETA?


Lookit the baby elephant.


I find anyone who would take PETA's word for their own activities to be either naive or suckered in by their propaganda. The idea that PETA feels it has the right to investigate companies, send in people with recording equipment, and then demand criminal charges be brought should frighten the hell out of anyone.

Only police agencies have the legal right to deceive and use electronic recording equipment secretly. While some states may permit sole knowledge recording, many do not. So there is no legal basis for PETA to act in the way that they do. What they rely upon is emotion. They want you to defend their criminal acts "to save animals". They want you to believe that computer programs can replicate the human body. They use their fame to indoctrinate school children with animal rights propaganda.

None of this is based on logic, the law or reality.

There is a vast difference between what a news organization does and what PETA did and people need to keep this in mind to avoid jail. While it may make you feel better to cheer these people on, this is so incredibly wrong and dangerous, people need to think hard before giving them a hand. No one wants animals to be treated cruelly, but all we have to say such acts have taken place is the word from a person working for an organization which believes that sheep shouldn't be sheared.

Usually, news organizations interview people and rely on whistleblowers. They check records, This can take months, even years. Then, the give the subject the chance to respond. They are careful to make sure what is depicted is accurate and conforms to the law. With a big series, you can spend months before it can see print. The Daily News had been investigating Bernie Kerik for six months and didn't say a word. Not one. Why? Because they weren't finished. The averge 60 Minutes expose takes nearly six months to complete.

Their undercover was not a whistleblower. She had worked there specifically to indict the company for animal cruelty and get the evidence.

Now, people, unthinkingly, have assumed that they're telling the truth.

Just because they make a claim, and have some video does not mean they are either honest or accurate in their depictions. PETA has a radical agenda which it freely announces.


People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), with more than 800,000 members, is the largest animal rights organization in the world. Founded in 1980, PETA is dedicated to establishing and protecting the rights of all animals. PETA operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment.

PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: on factory farms, in laboratories, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of beavers, birds and other "pests," and the abuse of backyard dogs.

PETA works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns.

Would trust your medical care to people who think one can gain knowledge of living beings completely through computers?

More and more students from elementary school to veterinary and medical school—are taking a stand against dissection before it happens in their classes.

Cut It Out!


Hearing a lot about violence in schools? You can do something to help: Cut out dissection! 20 million animals—frogs, cats, mice, dogs, and others—are violently killed and shipped off to schools, where young people are given scalpels and told to slice up the animals’ bodies as part of biology, anatomy, and other courses.

What do dissections teach? Not much … except that it’s OK to chop up animals. In California, investigators brought up the possible connection between a series of cat mutilations and the cat dissections at the local high school. That wouldn’t surprise us: In his last interview before his death, Jeffrey Dahmer said that he became fascinated with blood and guts when his school gave him a knife and a dead animal to cut apart in biology class.

What happens to the animals before the schools place their orders for bodies? PETA did undercover investigations at biological supply companies, which sell animal bodies and parts, and found nightmarish acts of animal cruelty, including the drowning of rabbits and cats embalmed while they were still alive. Check it out for yourself in this video. Schools that purchase animal bodies for dissection are paying for animals to be tortured and killed. It’s that simple.

This from an organization which admits killing 85 percent of the animals in their own shelters in 2003. Which routinely distorts their case and makes the crassest comparisons like chicken production and the Holocaust.

Many of you want to take the word of this woman working for this organization and make her a hero. You would view a report on pornography issued by Focus on the Family with derisive suspicion. You would laugh at a claim by the NRA that gun control is a failure. Yet, you take PETA's word that the company they illegally infiltrated was breaking the law.


What PETA does is dangerous as hell, and only a few of you get it. Would you like to have your Wiccan services infiltrated and then used in a Focus on the Family video about witchcraft? Would you like to have a few drinks in a bar turned into you having an alcohol problem?

I consider PETA extremists, but even if it was the Young Republicans, I would be just as wary. PETA could have done a real investigation, like Amnesty International, they could have been both professional and legal in their conduct, but that's dull. That wouldn't have any heroes. All that would have is results.

All of you people praising this woman hasn't even considered much of what she gathered would probably be kicked in a trial and her testimony tainted by her illegal actions. The only reason she acted in the way she did was that it gets good copy for PETA and a story with a nice hook. Actual prosecution for real animal abuse is quite unlikely now.

What PETA does, like all extremists, is hide their agenda. They play on your emotions and ignorance. They play on your love for animals to get away with criminal acts and the crassest public behavior, even misinforming children that milk will harm them and dissecting animals will turn them into killers. This is nothing like a fair or ethical public debate. Many of you who decry the pro-life movement's tactics, cast a kind eye on PETA doing the same, if not worse.

Is it really any better to indocrinate children to believe that milk will make them sick or to show them an aborted fetus?

Has any of PETA's undercover work led to criminal prosecutions? Or did they agree to leave one company alone?

The problem with PETA's above the law stand is that it doesn't work. Their "evidence" is unreliable, they make horrible witnesses in court. A good defense attorney can ruin their credibility in an hour. Imagine how a rural jury would react to people who suggest fishing is murder. That fish have feelings. They would be laughed off the stand., especially with the prevelence of catch and release fishing. Then there are their contributions to the ALF and other groups.

I'm all for preventing animal cruelty, but PETA's antics nausiate me because that's all they are. They aren't interested in real change, but a radical abolition of the right to eat steak and own a dog. They are extremists and people need to think long and hard for taking their word about anything., At any time.



posted by Steve @ 10:13:00 PM

10:13:00 PM

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